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Re: photo

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pan620 wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:23 pm
Mongrel505558 wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:07 pm
chop1543 wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:14 am

Bet on it.
I wouldn't, AMCA judges are not allowed to touch a bike being judged, need to do more homework.
Since I doubt I'll ever have a 100 point bike or anything close, my homework consists of learning everything I can to keep them on the road safely and reliably. My panhead did win a trophy for "Best Rat Bike" at a HA/Nomads party once, though.
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Re: photo

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Mongrel505558 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:05 am
pan620 wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:23 pm
Mongrel505558 wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:07 pm

I wouldn't, AMCA judges are not allowed to touch a bike being judged, need to do more homework.
Since I doubt I'll ever have a 100 point bike or anything close, my homework consists of learning everything I can to keep them on the road safely and reliably. My panhead did win a trophy for "Best Rat Bike" at a HA/Nomads party once, though.
I, too, aim for safety and reliability, but I also like to get as close as I can to OEM where feasible. I've drawn many lines over the past 45 years as to what I'll go with and let slide when it comes to originality
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Re: photo

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Mongrel505558 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:05 am
pan620 wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:23 pm
Mongrel505558 wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:07 pm

I wouldn't, AMCA judges are not allowed to touch a bike being judged, need to do more homework.
Since I doubt I'll ever have a 100 point bike or anything close, my homework consists of learning everything I can to keep them on the road safely and reliably. My panhead did win a trophy for "Best Rat Bike" at a HA/Nomads party once, though.
Then why did you say what the judges would do when you admit you do not no or care what they do?
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Re: photo

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pan620 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:15 pm
Mongrel505558 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:05 am
pan620 wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:23 pm

Since I doubt I'll ever have a 100 point bike or anything close, my homework consists of learning everything I can to keep them on the road safely and reliably. My panhead did win a trophy for "Best Rat Bike" at a HA/Nomads party once, though.
Then why did you say what the judges would do when you admit you do not no or care what they do?
Look, I'm not trying to pick a fight with the AMCA. I know an AMCA judge who lives around my parts, and he's into custom builds as well as vintage correct bikes. We get along very well. I find some things baffling, though - and I may be wrong because I haven't competed - like bead-blasted Buchanan stainless steel spokes are okay, but the nipples are not.
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Re: photo

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Mongrel505558 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:40 pm
pan620 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:15 pm
Mongrel505558 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:05 am

Then why did you say what the judges would do when you admit you do not no or care what they do?
Look, I'm not trying to pick a fight with the AMCA. I know an AMCA judge who lives around my parts, and he's into custom builds as well as vintage correct bikes. We get along very well. I find some things baffling, though - and I may be wrong because I haven't competed - like bead-blasted Buchanan stainless steel spokes are okay, but the nipples are not.

Buchanan nipples do not "look" like the originals, hence the issue.
Most AMCA members could care less about judging and ride whatever they like. Go on some Road Runs and see what they are riding.
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Re: photo

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RUBONE wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:36 pm
Mongrel505558 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:40 pm
pan620 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 4:15 pm

Look, I'm not trying to pick a fight with the AMCA. I know an AMCA judge who lives around my parts, and he's into custom builds as well as vintage correct bikes. We get along very well. I find some things baffling, though - and I may be wrong because I haven't competed - like bead-blasted Buchanan stainless steel spokes are okay, but the nipples are not.

Buchanan nipples do not "look" like the originals, hence the issue.
Most AMCA members could care less about judging and ride whatever they like. Go on some Road Runs and see what they are riding.
Yeah, I noticed the flats are longer, but is the intent to be all original or look all original? And I like a correctly restored motorcycle as much as anyone. I drool over them (not on them!). I'm trying to bring my '68 back to as original as possible given my budget, but it'll never be a show bike. It will be a good rider, though. I've been to British bike meets where people trailered bikes in with no oil in the crankcase or even pushrods so the cylinders would be sealed. What good is that? Makes a pretty statue, I guess (rules have been changed so the bikes have to run now). So if I offended anyone, well, sorry. All I know is my rat pan has the same gears and bushings behind the timing cover as any show bike, and I deal with the same issues keeping it running to the best of its ability.
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Mine and a group of my riding buddies bikes on a road in Colorado. Not a show bike to be seen...
And they all get ridden.
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trying to put a pic in.
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Sorry, tried to post a pic and didn't have any luck.
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Here's a visual I pulled off a YouTube video, illustrating my intended 68 paint scheme, but on 3.5gal tanks and no wrinkle, not kosher, but still in the spirit of 68.
Black deluxe solo seat, fenders & sidecar body all white, if glare is a problem for wife or myself, maybe a flat black anti-glare panel forward of SC windscreen, want to keep it simple, but sharp.
I just like the 68 5 gal flash for the previously stated reasons, the black lines really do it for me with the white and that's all that matters.
Only need a bucket of "round to-its" to finish.
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When I picked up my '68 my thought was that I would restore it as all original. It had a Custom Chrome oil pump and chrome primary cover with removable derby cover, and a few other aftermarket items that were wrong for the year. The most obvious discrepancy is the paint job, but I took a liking to it. I've since replaced most incorrect items, but this is as far as I think I can go. Note that I don't have the true dual exhaust anymore, the jugs are black, and I have an S&S carb on it. But it runs great. To be correct I also need a Tillotson carb, but it runs so well with the S&S that I hate to change it. Also, I believe white walls were standard for the year, but I like black walls because with a chain drive whitewalls don't stay white for long. So this is about as far as can go given my budget and compromises with rideablilty. That's why I said I'll never have a 100 point bike.
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20180610_144510.jpg
This was my attempt at my first bobber, so everyone can see I'm not a complete lunatic when it comes to restoration. I did take the time, however, to make sure the basics were OEM correct. The frame, motor, tranny, dash and front end are right for the year. Bars are Flanders, risers I had cast and machined myself, rear fender I did the sheet metal work on and then let the painter do his magic.
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chop1543 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:12 pm 20180610_144510.jpg
This was my attempt at my first bobber, so everyone can see I'm not a complete lunatic when it comes to restoration. I did take the time, however, to make sure the basics were OEM correct. The frame, motor, tranny, dash and front end are right for the year. Bars are Flanders, risers I had cast and machined myself, rear fender I did the sheet metal work on and then let the painter do his magic.
Nice bike!
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Mongrel505558 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:10 pm When I picked up my '68 my thought was that I would restore it as all original. It had a Custom Chrome oil pump and chrome primary cover with removable derby cover, and a few other aftermarket items that were wrong for the year. The most obvious discrepancy is the paint job, but I took a liking to it. I've since replaced most incorrect items, but this is as far as I think I can go. Note that I don't have the true dual exhaust anymore, the jugs are black, and I have an S&S carb on it. But it runs great. To be correct I also need a Tillotson carb, but it runs so well with the S&S that I hate to change it. Also, I believe white walls were standard for the year, but I like black walls because with a chain drive whitewalls don't stay white for long. So this is about as far as can go given my budget and compromises with rideablilty. That's why I said I'll never have a 100 point bike.
Don’ Know why the MOCO went with the aluminum outer primary with no derby cover. Probably had something to do with the electric start. The Panhead tin primaries had them. Not a big deal but kind of a pain to remove just to adjust the clutch.
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