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relay style regulator

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I just read, with great interest, a thread from 2007/08 regarding the building of regulators that will fit into the relay housing. I see that now there is a 6V solid state regulator for 2 brush generators in a Delco style relay housing available from W&W Cycle in Germany. Has anyone here used one of these and got any feedback?
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Re: relay style regulator

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Samwell Supply dealers have them. Rob Nussbaum at RetroCycle keeps them in stock.
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Re: relay style regulator

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RetroCycle responded quick and supplied me with a 12v model regulator. I modified it to fit into a Duo-Glide 6v regulator housing for appearance sake. It keeps the battery at full charge better than the 12v mechanical regulator did too. Gary
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Thanks for the responses. I'll get one ordered and give it a try.
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Re: relay style regulator

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Out of curiosity, does this fit in the duo-glide Delco square box that is mounted on the rear engine mounts? I’m considering one for my setup
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Re: relay style regulator

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No, its too long overall to fit under the 6V cover. You have to disassemble the solid state regulator and modify / relocate the bat, gen, and arm. tabs. You will also need to do some accurate cutting, drilling and tapping. I'm no genius, but if your not careful or have little finesse' you could kiss a $140 Samwell goodbye. Gary
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Re: relay style regulator

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Good read, good advise............. :)
6hds wrote: Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:20 pm No, its too long overall to fit under the 6V cover. You have to disassemble the solid state regulator and modify / relocate the bat, gen, and arm. tabs. You will also need to do some accurate cutting, drilling and tapping. I'm no genius, but if your not careful or have little finesse' you could kiss a $140 Samwell goodbye. Gary
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Re: relay style regulator

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6hds wrote: Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:20 pm No, its too long overall to fit under the 6V cover. You have to disassemble the solid state regulator and modify / relocate the bat, gen, and arm. tabs. You will also need to do some accurate cutting, drilling and tapping. I'm no genius, but if your not careful or have little finesse' you could kiss a $140 Samwell goodbye. Gary
Does anyone have experience with fitting a solid-state voltage regulator into the square Delco Rem does anyone have experience with fitting a solid-state voltage regulator into the square Delco Remy box? I just got quoted $300 and 6 month lead time to get it completed...
I’m sure there’s a better route
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Re: relay style regulator

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Gotnoclass, Yeah, I've done it! And there is no better route because nobody makes anything like this. Its a total custom modification. Was the $300 and 6 months for labor only? Having done this mod myself for the first time I think I have at least 4+ hours or so in it. This would includes stripping the coils out of the Regulator base, disassembling the Samwell solid state sandwiches, modify the tabs, trimming the samwell mount, CAREFULLY REASSEMBLING the solid state sandwiches, bolting it in place, solder / terminate 3 wires to the appropriate tabs. and sealing the unused holes. It would also be a good idea to use a donor regulator that has the good rubber isolation strips on the mounts. I might entertain doing another. Gary
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Re: relay style regulator

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Maybe you can ask the producer: http://www.v-tronic.com/contact/
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Re: relay style regulator

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6hds wrote: Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:32 am Was the $300 and 6 months for labor only?
No, it was the total cost. Approx half parts, half labor to retrofit my existing one. I have acquired this Dixie aftermarket NOS unit off of EBay, and I plan to fit it in the square box. Anyone has any experience with this unit? Looks well built and good enough quality from the pictures.
I’d love to hear some opinions.
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Re: relay style regulator

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I have not used that unit, but would be wary of enclosing in a box. The heat may kill it. All those fins need airflow and most late regulators that look like that are factory positioned in the airflow near the front motor mount. Inside a box behind the rear cylinder, near the exhaust might be too much temp! But temperature considered, you may come up with a great solution! Good luck!

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Andygears wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:10 am I have not used that unit, but would be wary of enclosing in a box. The heat may kill it. All those fins need airflow and most late regulators that look like that are factory positioned in the airflow near the front motor mount. Inside a box behind the rear cylinder, near the exhaust might be too much temp! But temperature considered, you may come up with a great solution! Good luck!

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Thanks Andy. I sure will report back with documentation of progress
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Re: relay style regulator

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Well, I have installed the new solid state regulator. Couldn’t get rid of a faint gen light that would brighten with acceleration. I installed a known good mechanical regulator, and light disappeared. I decided to stick to the good old mechanical regulator.
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