Pete808 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 8:39 amDave, can you notice the difference on the Firestone ANS compared to the cheaper shinkos? I can get Shinkos at work but I don't think I can get the Firestones but if they ride better I wouldn't mind checking them out. thanksflatheadDave wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:57 pm Firestone ANS are the tires you want. Those old tires will make the bike get squirilly on the highway when your bikes speed is around 65.
tires
58 panhed
-
- Member
- Posts: 449
- Joined: Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:07 pm
- Bikes: 1948 G 45", 1969 FLH, 1963 FLH, 1965 FLH
- Location: LA
- Has thanked: 243 times
- Been thanked: 99 times
Re: tires
Compared to handling on the road? No difference.
-
- Site sponsor
- Senior Member
- Posts: 1160
- Joined: Tue May 25, 2004 3:47 am
- Bikes: 1959 Panhead FLH
- Has thanked: 18 times
- Been thanked: 152 times
Re: tires
I run the Wide Whitewall Cokers. I stay up with all my friends on the turns only limitation are braking and ground clearance of my '59. Yes I pay more but like the looks.
-
- Senior Member
- Posts: 5327
- Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:00 pm
- Bikes: 1950 Panhead, Resto-Mod
1968 90", 5 Speed Shovelhead,
1984 Home Built Custom Evo 100" Bagger - Location: Knoxville, Tennessee
- Has thanked: 2801 times
- Been thanked: 2159 times
Re: tires
I can't see my tires at 60 MPH. Even when profiling down town store front windows they are still a blur....
-
- Senior Member
- Posts: 5327
- Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:00 pm
- Bikes: 1950 Panhead, Resto-Mod
1968 90", 5 Speed Shovelhead,
1984 Home Built Custom Evo 100" Bagger - Location: Knoxville, Tennessee
- Has thanked: 2801 times
- Been thanked: 2159 times
-
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2086
- Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:03 am
- Bikes: '52 FL
'64 FLH - Has thanked: 164 times
- Been thanked: 514 times
Re: tires
My take is that Roo has a bit of a snarky side, and doesn't mean to offend.
If you were standing next to him, and he said that, you probably wouldn't take offense, Written words are easier to read stuff into.
If you were standing next to him, and he said that, you probably wouldn't take offense, Written words are easier to read stuff into.
-
- Senior Member
- Posts: 591
- Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:24 am
- Bikes: 68 FL
- Location: Nambour Qld Australia
- Has thanked: 256 times
- Been thanked: 477 times
Re: tires
To get this post back on track
Regardless of riding style, cost, favorite brand, tread pattern, blackwall, or whitewall:
For original stance/correct appearance and any hope of trans driven speedo accuracy
Any rolling tire diameter change from 26.25” will affect speedometer & odometer accuracy. (26.25” dia = 768.335 wheel revolutions per mile)
If you like lower tire pressures you need a bigger tire to make up for the amount of squish, Avon Speedmaster Mk2 is one of the biggest at 26.87"
For trans driven speedo accuracy you also need to run stock 22T and 51T read drive sprockets.
Nifty
Regardless of riding style, cost, favorite brand, tread pattern, blackwall, or whitewall:
For original stance/correct appearance and any hope of trans driven speedo accuracy
Any rolling tire diameter change from 26.25” will affect speedometer & odometer accuracy. (26.25” dia = 768.335 wheel revolutions per mile)
If you like lower tire pressures you need a bigger tire to make up for the amount of squish, Avon Speedmaster Mk2 is one of the biggest at 26.87"
For trans driven speedo accuracy you also need to run stock 22T and 51T read drive sprockets.
Nifty
-
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2086
- Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:03 am
- Bikes: '52 FL
'64 FLH - Has thanked: 164 times
- Been thanked: 514 times
Re: tires
That's an interesting point, I used to stress about it, but I have found on my '51, with stock gearing EXCEPT for a 24-tooth Transmission Drive Sprocket, the speedo and odometer both read very accurately, as compared to GPS readings.
I have tested the speedometer separately, and it is set to the correct 2000RPM = 60mph.
I'm currently running a Shinko 712 in 130/90-16 size on the rear.
I have tested the speedometer separately, and it is set to the correct 2000RPM = 60mph.
I'm currently running a Shinko 712 in 130/90-16 size on the rear.
Last edited by awander on Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:22 am, edited 3 times in total.
-
- Senior Member
- Posts: 591
- Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:24 am
- Bikes: 68 FL
- Location: Nambour Qld Australia
- Has thanked: 256 times
- Been thanked: 477 times
Re: tires
Thanks Andy
Science & modern technology beats mathematics
So the next question is, for 40 odd years of H-D riding cops, how many speeding tickets were invalid?
Nifty
Science & modern technology beats mathematics
So the next question is, for 40 odd years of H-D riding cops, how many speeding tickets were invalid?
Nifty
-
- Senior Member
- Posts: 591
- Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:24 am
- Bikes: 68 FL
- Location: Nambour Qld Australia
- Has thanked: 256 times
- Been thanked: 477 times
Re: tires
Andy,awander wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:23 am That's an interesting point, I used to stress about it, but I have found on my '51, with stock gearing EXCEPT for a 24-tooth Transmission Drive Sprocket, the speedo and odometer both read very accurately, as compared to GPS readings.
I have tested the speedometer separately, and it is set to the correct 2000RPM = 60mph.
I'm currently running a Shinko 712 in 130/90-16 size on the rear.
according to Shinko website:
Shinko 712 in 130/90-16 are 25.2 inch (modern Harley size) https://shinkotireusa.com/product/712-tire/211902
Shinko Super Classic 270 5 x 16 black & white are 26.2 inch https://shinkotireusa.com/product/super ... ire/211905
Shinko Classic 240 5 x 16 black & white are 26.1 inch https://shinkotireusa.com/product/class ... ire/211907
Seems to me your extra 2 teeth at trans merely compensates for your smaller rear tire.
Handy to know that speedo accurate with your combination.
Do you notice reduced ground clearance?
Nifty
-
- Senior Member
- Posts: 2086
- Joined: Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:03 am
- Bikes: '52 FL
'64 FLH - Has thanked: 164 times
- Been thanked: 514 times
Re: tires
Hi nifty:
Thanks for that info!
The bike I learned to ride on was a 1964 FLH with an old springer front end on it, and that bike had almost "zero" ground clearance, so by comparison, my '52 FL is a regular sidewall-scrubber.
The other thing is that the Shinko 712s have a much wider/fatter profile than the period-correct tires, so when you are leaned over, I think the bike is pretty much at the same height off the ground.
Thanks for that info!
The bike I learned to ride on was a 1964 FLH with an old springer front end on it, and that bike had almost "zero" ground clearance, so by comparison, my '52 FL is a regular sidewall-scrubber.
The other thing is that the Shinko 712s have a much wider/fatter profile than the period-correct tires, so when you are leaned over, I think the bike is pretty much at the same height off the ground.
-
- Member
- Posts: 83
- Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:14 am
- Bikes: 1954 FL
1983 FLHTP - Location: USA
- Has thanked: 16 times
- Been thanked: 23 times
-
- Senior Member
- Posts: 5327
- Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:00 pm
- Bikes: 1950 Panhead, Resto-Mod
1968 90", 5 Speed Shovelhead,
1984 Home Built Custom Evo 100" Bagger - Location: Knoxville, Tennessee
- Has thanked: 2801 times
- Been thanked: 2159 times
Re: tires
What is about to happen?
The traffic light is red, and the rider is not paying attention, at least not to the light. LOL....
The traffic light is red, and the rider is not paying attention, at least not to the light. LOL....
-
- Senior Member
- Posts: 591
- Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:24 am
- Bikes: 68 FL
- Location: Nambour Qld Australia
- Has thanked: 256 times
- Been thanked: 477 times
Re: tires
Bumperless beetle launch ramp
Pan loses some paint off lower frame tubes
Nuns shit themselves
hero & babe arrive unscathed at bar 2 blocks away
she spits her dummy, he has a beer
Pan loses some paint off lower frame tubes
Nuns shit themselves
hero & babe arrive unscathed at bar 2 blocks away
she spits her dummy, he has a beer