52 Billy Bad Boy Pan Motor Build ...

This job will be very much like the 51 Pan motor build, but sporting more cubes ...

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Re: 52 Billy Bad Boy Pan Motor Build ...

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Well, how bout dat ...

The Mag base will not go down into the case ... !! :shock:
No way the gears are going to mesh ....

Sumthin is up there for dang sure ...

The C.B. gear is a new VT lighting gear ... Normal rotation ..
It's possible that the used Mag was made for reverse rotation ... Which would explain my problem ..

Got some checks to do to see if this indeed is the case ...
Results in a short ..
(Why me all the freaken time :? )


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Re: 52 Billy Bad Boy Pan Motor Build ...

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Nope, don't have the reverse gear on the Mag ...

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The gear sitting on top is a S&S reverse gear ...

Thinking about pulling the gear off the Mag and replacing it with a used one ...

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That's going to be a big job to do since Morris welds the gear to the shaft ... :shock:

The other course of action is to replace the VT Lighting C.B. gear with one that's not as fat .. !!
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That ^^ tells the story ...

Stock gear fell right in, good back-lash on the gears ...

The problem "IS" the VT C.B.gear being made to fat .... :x
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BTY ...

Just got the "Go Ahead" for two sets of the Panheads ...

The set that will be used on the 52 will get shine up a bit ...
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Re: 52 Billy Bad Boy Pan Motor Build ...

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Now, how does that mag mount to the engine case?
And will it install with the head in place. If not, I would toss that troublesome sum-bitch....
....RooDog....
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RooDog wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 12:25 am Now, how does that mag mount to the engine case?
And will it install with the head in place. If not, I would toss that troublesome sum-bitch....
....RooDog....
These two hidden bolts locks it to the motor case ...

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Once they get the grunt put on em a keyed gear will be loaded on over the top with a snap ring to hold it in place ...

Being the Mag has an offset to it there is no worries about trimming fins on the Jugs or Heads, it's a Plug & Play install ..

Really is a well designed Mag and will allow for kick starting by hand .. (Not recommended)

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Dang ....

Either too tight or way too loose ...

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Had that G5 on my never ending project bike. It was either easy slow push kick start right up or No start and gas sitting in the carb because I couldn’t run it until it was dry. Had a CV carb on it at that time. Sold that G5 at a loss and put a Linkert and original manual advance circuit breaker on. It’s been starting first hot kick ever since. I hope you have a better luck. Hard kicks are wasted kicks. I also had their plug wire set that eliminates the wasted spark which worked better than 2 plug wires.
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PanPal wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:22 pm I hope you have a better luck.
State of tune ....

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Pretty much the reason that the Super-E was the carb choice for this motor ...
Tuneability is on the menu ....
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Re: 52 Billy Bad Boy Pan Motor Build ...

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Alright ....

Going to use the Oem gear instead of the "No Fit" Lighting gear ...

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Did the grind for cam lobe swing, got lucky with the end-play cause the Oem gear was .002" shorter than the Lighting gear ...

Now the Mag is sitting all the way down on the case ..

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Got a few new parts on order from Morris Mag ...
The Mag came with 1/4 X 20 bolts, we needed the 1/4 X 24 bolts, a few gaskets, replacing the points & condenser and on order is a Goodson Alum. Mag cap (That one is not from Morris) ...
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Re: 52 Billy Bad Boy Pan Motor Build ...

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My 2c
For mag screws, if you don't have 1/4" 24 socket heads

Colony 1/4" 24 tappet guide 12 point screws (for late guides in early cases)

or maybe even better, Pan-early Shovel tappet guide screws with taper seat machined off to form shoulder

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RooDog wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 12:25 am Now, how does that mag mount to the engine case?
And will it install with the head in place.
....RooDog....
I had no need to go this far with how the Mag mounts to the case ...

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The photo above ^^ shows how much of the Mag base that's sticking out over the case ...
Wouldn't cause any problems at all ..

But, since this old motor is somewhat going to be a show bike ....
I did a bit of matching ...

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This work was only for the looks ...
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Polished up looking like new again ...
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Been busy with the 48 ....

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Gapless rings came in, jumped to with prepping the jugs ...

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Broke down the flywheels ...
Left wheel sprocket shaft taper will be machined for the L-81 up taper ..
Gen idle gear is in grand shape, might reuse it or replace it with a S&S double bushing gear ..
Owner's call .. ??

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The rods are like new, see no need for servicing them ...

New re-pop heads should show up next week ..(Two sets are coming in for the 52 and the 48)
No clue on what cam the owner has in mind to run ...

Going to check my stock, might have a few here to pick from ... ??
Or get one on order ...
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Re: 52 Billy Bad Boy Pan Motor Build ...

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Found a used Cobra ..

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