What is the crankcase breather separator/screen for?

Bottom End (crankcases and crankshaft)
Post Reply
57pan
Inactive member
Member
Posts: 239
Joined: Sat Mar 13, 2004 2:16 pm
Bikes: -
Location: Michigan, USA
Been thanked: 2 times
Contact:

What is the crankcase breather separator/screen for?

#1

Post by 57pan »

I don't mean the gear-driven breather valve but the C-shaped separator and screen (OEM # 25275-36 and 25279-36) that goes in the cavity in the lower left corner of the gear case. It appears that this cavity is pretty isolated from everything else so what function is this screen actually performing?

The reason I'm asking is because I recently removed my cam cover and found that there is no separator/screen in there.
fourthgear
Inactive member
Senior Member
Posts: 1401
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:54 am
Bikes: -
Location: north florida
Been thanked: 7 times

#2

Post by fourthgear »

Its a foam or bubble separator that was needed for the older type oils with out anti foaming additives , some one posted that answer a while back. I always new it was a separator ,but I originally thought it was for just separating vapor from the oil return to the tank , so the foaming or bubbling separation ,makes sense too.
57pan
Inactive member
Member
Posts: 239
Joined: Sat Mar 13, 2004 2:16 pm
Bikes: -
Location: Michigan, USA
Been thanked: 2 times
Contact:

#3

Post by 57pan »

fourthgear,

Thanks for the quick reply... so I probably don't need to worry about putting one back in there, right?
fourthgear
Inactive member
Senior Member
Posts: 1401
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2004 5:54 am
Bikes: -
Location: north florida
Been thanked: 7 times

#4

Post by fourthgear »

Myself, I would put it in, they are not expensive and it belongs there , but that's your call and you haven't had any problems , have you?. I have a tappet screen missing from my 65 ( probably the previous owner or builder thought it didn't need it ), there will be one back in there when I assem. the motor. Maybe not the same thing but it belongs in there and it may have benefits we have no knowledge of .
Panacea
Senior Member
Posts: 2096
Joined: Fri May 24, 2002 1:00 am
Bikes: 64FL 99FLHR 01FXSTD
Location: Mpls. MN.
Has thanked: 71 times
Been thanked: 148 times

#5

Post by Panacea »

Dave,What's up inside the gearcover? Mike
partshunt
Panhead Register Member
Member
Posts: 334
Joined: Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:46 am
Bikes: 1917F
1923JD
1928JD
1929JD
1929 Indian Four cyl
1954 Harley FL
2007 FLHTC
Location: "Big Timber Country" Western Canada
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 9 times
Contact:

#6

Post by partshunt »

The way I always regarded the screen is that you need it to clean up the crancase breather air of all that oil. Its like an aircleaner and as the breather or base pressure air with all that oil in it from the con rods, rocker cover drain back etc. passes thru, the oil gets bassically "screened" and trapped into the scavange cavity where the oil then travels back to the tank. Without the screen, or installed wrong, your breather will slobber oil into the primary usually big time. This was all discussed in an earlier post where someone had too much breather oil into the primary case and big puddles under his ole hawg.. Screen was incorrectly installed. You always get some bubbles in the return oil and thats why the return is at the top of the tank to disperse the last of the bubbles that may still be in the return. There is a pic somewhere here in this forum of the screen properly installed. My suggestion is, install that screen.............Joe :)
57pan
Inactive member
Member
Posts: 239
Joined: Sat Mar 13, 2004 2:16 pm
Bikes: -
Location: Michigan, USA
Been thanked: 2 times
Contact:

#7

Post by 57pan »

Panacea wrote:Dave,What's up inside the gearcover? Mike
A while back I posted that I had replaced my alternator with a CycleElectric generator ( Replaced alternator with CycleElectric gen. ) One of the alternator mounting bolts had broken and the alt was rattling around on its remaining mounting bolt.

Well, after I got the generator on I could hear a noise inside the gear housing - kind of a knocking/clunking sound. I wasn't sure if it was a new noise or an old noise that had been masked by all the noise that the old alternator was making.

When I pulled the cam cover off I found that the idler gear that drives the gen had a tooth missing!! I couldn't find any pieces inside the gear housing so I pulled the oil pump. Sure enough, I could see that it had already passed thru the return side of the oil pump. A remnant of the broken tooth was embedded into one of the oil pump gears.

I got some used oil pump gears and a used idler gear but haven't got it all back together yet. And I still have to flush and clean the oil tank to make sure there's nothing in there.

My bike didn't have an oil filter when I got it and I was always of the opinion that if I changed the oil often a filter wasn't really necessary. But a filter in the return line would have given me added assurance in this case.
Post Reply

Return to “Bottom End / Crankcases / Flywheels”