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Re: Timing mark

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Thanks.
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sorry for not getting back sooner. Good news. :D :D The bike starts easy cold,hot and warm. After chasing my tail for so long the problem was simple . Before it would take any number of kicks up to 25 and as if to say 'is this what i am supposed to do' it would start. But not hot.Bubble tested several times I would carefully set and check timing and push rods, good compression, Cotton float set and checked but it gave me no respect. So 10 days ago i was checking the timing again having followed all suggestions, and noticed as I tweaked the timer it would light or not sometimes so that I could not find a happy spot. I discovered the there was sometimes power there and then not. Replaced the wire from timer to coil and the planets aligned . I have a easy start bike every time. I ge=uess the wire in the connector was making and breaking and at this point made it obvious.
So thankyou for bearing with me and for all your suggestions.
However one more problem. When it is hot it idles fast . Bubble test was good. Idle on start is to my liking. I would appreciate more suggestions
Thanks again
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I hope you soldered all your electrical terminals to the wires. Makes for a good mechanical & electrical bond, and keeps the elements out so as to prevent internal corrosion of the connection. I simply do not trust crimped connections. I've had them fail, both my own, and commercial crimps, especially imported aftermarket items.....
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Hi Jerry:

In my experience, as the engine warms up, the idle speed will increase.

My solution is to set the idle speed screw so that it idles too slowly when it is cold; I can keep the revs up using the throttle.

When it warms up, I can fully close the throttle and keep it idling where I want it.
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RooDog wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:52 am Tedd's V-Twin has em listed, all are in stock....
Stock Black: 13-0121.
Heavy Silver: 13-9246.
Severe Gold: 13-9247
All of those numbers at all the places I look say they are for 1970 and later. Maybe I am doing something wrong. My springs have two short hooks on each end. Not the long hook.
https://www2.vtwinmfg.com/catalogsearch ... &q=13-9246
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You are right, but not too difficult to bend the hooked end to work for you if nothing else is available... A lot of AM dizzies use the 1970 + newer advance system...
Sorry for the misleading information....
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awander wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 3:16 am Hi Jerry:

In my experience, as the engine warms up, the idle speed will increase.

My solution is to set the idle speed screw so that it idles too slowly when it is cold; I can keep the revs up using the throttle.

When it warms up, I can fully close the throttle and keep it idling where I want it.
I run an S&S Super B on my pan. I replaced the idle set screw with a longer screw with a knurled knob. For cold starts I tighten the screw about 15 degrees to open the butterfly just a tad more. As the bike warms up, usually in about a mile or two, when I come to a stop sign I just reach down and back the idle down. One of the easiest things I've done with the biggest payoff in rideability.
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I don't know why it is, but the B has always had a unique sound to which I like. A great carb for an older chopper/bobber. I scored a really nice one at a swap meet for a hunsky, but sold it as I needed the funds more than the vintage carbby, Also it lacked an air cleaner, and that would have been an added expense. And no, an AM AC would not do for me....
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RooDog wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 12:43 pm I don't know why it is, but the B has always had a unique sound to which I like. A great carb for an older chopper/bobber. I scored a really nice one at a swap meet for a hunsky, but sold it as I needed the funds more than the vintage carbby, Also it lacked an air cleaner, and that would have been an added expense. And no, an AM AC would not do for me....
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My pan really responds well to something about the B - maybe the long throat. I don't know, but definitely better than a couple of E's I've tried on there. First ran the pan with an SU. That was a good running carb until cold weather, when the piston would sometimes freeze up in the chamber and hold the needle way out of the jet. Motor would stop until it would "thaw".
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RooDog wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:08 am You are right, but not too difficult to bend the hooked end to work for you if nothing else is available... A lot of AM dizzies use the 1970 + newer advance system...
Sorry for the misleading information....
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I found them. OEM part #32604-64. V-Twin part # 13-0166. They are expensive little buggers.
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$27.15 for a pair. Ya play, ya gotta pay....
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Found a pair on flea bay for $20.50 shipped.
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