Clutch springs

[haggis]

Hi Guys,
Is it ok to replace the short fat clutch springs on the pressure plate with the later long and skinny Shovel type?...........or will this be a beeatch!
Thanks, Haggis

[dirtydistrict]

Well, for me short fat are used with 3 plates and half "police" clutch, the shovel type springs are for 5 plates type clutch, i don't see the advantage to go for shovel springs unless you've got a full basket of 'em...

[Kurt]

haggis.....why not a diaphragm clutch pack? Easier to release, stronger holding power, easy to adjust and it distributes the pressure over the clutches equally.

Kurt

[haggis]

Dirty D,
I'm trying to install the full "police" clutch pack. 4 steels and 5 fibers.Trouble is there is not enough room for the spring disc, Can I leave the thing out and run a fiber instead?That would be the last disc in series which would be against the pressure plate.The initial spring spacing for the short springs is 31/32, whats the spacing for the long springs?....or do I just play around with it?
Kurt from 45parts, I'm using a mouse trap and want to keep it....didn't think a diaphram clutch would work with it....will it? Thanks guys , Haggis

[dirtydistrict]

Well, forget about spring spacing, the most important is to have equal pressure on each spring, tight it until it doesn't slide anymore

[Kurt]

I just spoke with the manufacturer and he said it would probably work and fit correctly if you ran 3 of the thinner disks. But he wasn't 100% sure. The Diaphragm clutch pack I have is thinner and machined a little different than the original ones made years ago to clear the inside if the tin primaries better.
If you want to give it a try, e-mail me and we'll work something out. I would be curious to find out for sure.

info@45partsdepot.com

Kurt

[panhead]

Kurt,

Does your diaphragm clutch also work with a belt drive?

[Kurt]

Yes....I sell the Primo belt drive for the Big Twin and have had no input good or bad with this setup. So I guess it works fine.

Kurt

[58flh]

Haggis----There is no benefit using shovel-springs!--I run a disc. short & a 1/2-plate.I use stock Panhead springs & NEVER any issues!.Remember the 31/32 is a good STARTING REFERENCE!.--If it slips when kicking JUST tighten each one a full turn until no slippage!.Once its set & the Freeplay with the cable is set--Start bike & watch the BASKET!--If its wobbly & most likely will be.-Stop motor & pull plugs & spin it over & watch which ones need TIGHTENING!-To take the wobble out!.-You don't want to loosen as it will most likely SLIP upon Kickstarting!.Adj. like this for MIN. wobble!-& You should have a EASY squeeze on the clutch & no slippage cold or hot!--(IF the basket MOVES in & out--YOU need to RELACE the ROLLERS & CAGE!.BASKET should not move!--This gives you a GRABBY clutch!--Some use TAMERS,-But I never have.A tamer is a Bandaid for a more serious problem-Like worn Basket & hub.The FACTORY NEVER used them!/As long as the BASKET runs TRUE & cannot be pulled in & out by hand-ENJOY your bike!.I know of ALOT of people that SWEAR by TAMERS--& IF it works for you,-HEY if it gets you home DO IT!--BUT FIX what is really wrong when you get the chance.----Respectfully----RICHIE