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bent pushrod
has anyone ever had the rear exhaust push rod bend, and did it make any distinctive noise? the reason for asking is that i have a noise that we can't figure out and we found the rear exhaust push rod bent. its not in the heads, as we have had the heads off several times. Just want to know if anyone has ever experienced this. thanks Scott
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Re: bent pushrod
There are only a couple of scenarios where a pushrod bends, and they always involve a sudden reduction in clearance. A valve sticking in a guide or colliding with a piston, or an adjuster screwing itself out, tappet roller failure, etc. They do not bend for no reason. I would have a closer look at that head and the rockers, also the tappets and rollers! And check the valve springs for coilbind!
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Re: bent pushrod
As Robbie says DO check valve spring installed height and valve stem protrusion.I have seen quite a number of engines come in with bent pushrods that had recently been overhauled and fitted with new seats or oversize head valves,the whole problem being that no one had bothered to check installed height and stem protrusion.
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Re: bent pushrod
Mine bent the same one a few weeks ago as I was warming it up. Everything sounded normal it just stalled. When I went to start it back up I noticed the pushrod tube bent. Haven't tore it down yet to see what went wrong.
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Re: bent pushrod
already went through the heads and all is well with them, its the noise we cant figure out. the rod could have been bent for a while, not sure just discovered it the other day. Were thinking with it being bent that the noise might be the rod hitting the push rod tube, not sure yet waiting for a push rod. Thanks Scott
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Re: bent pushrod
well finally figured out the noise and it was a valve seat. it became apparent today when I took the bike for a test run and the noise appeared, pull back in the bike shop the mechanic heard the noise again and pulled the rear push rod out. Went to pull the intake rod out and the motor locked up. Took the spark plugs out and saw the exhaust valve hung open. Pulled off the head and this is what we saw.
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Re: bent pushrod
I will gladly put in touch with people in yer own backyard that can do this job correctly and guarantee their work....bosheff
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Re: bent pushrod
already got it covered it should be fixed by tomorrow. but who do you know in this area for maybe future use? Its always good to know who's around as it is hard to find reliable people to work on the older bikes, for when comes to things out of my realm of thing I can do myself. Thanks Scott
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Re: bent pushrod
Please describe what "the fix" will be? I've got inserted seats in my heads, and even though I haven't yet ran the motor, I'm a bit concerned. My motor guy who did the work stands behind it, so maybe it's all for naught.....
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Re: bent pushrod
I am not sure how to explain the "fix" other than the machinist puts a new seat in it and re-cuts the seat for the valve. I will post more details when i see the head tomorrow. Scott
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Re: bent pushrod
Scott, why is there what appears to be chisel marks around you exhaust port?
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Re: bent pushrod
not sure Stuey, someone told me at on time they did this to help hold them in place. these seats were put in about 8 or 9 years ago, and i don't remember if that guy did it or not. Scott
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Re: bent pushrod
Gates Performance Engineering in Morrice, Mi. I'll post up the phone # as soon as I can lay my mitts on it. Owner's name is Greg Gates. He is one of the best kept secrets in the universe. He specializes in performance H-D's but will do just about any BT. He designed, engineered, and manufactures HIS OWN engine which is approx. 160 cu in. He took this engine to Bonneville twice and set a record the first time out, then broke his own record the next year. He has an engine builder on his staff that's been doin the knucks and pans forever. They did a 65 for me and did an excellent job. I don't often endorse anyone, but these people are exceptional....bosheff
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Re: bent pushrod
I am not sure how to explain the "fix" other than the machinist puts a new seat in it and re-cuts the seat for the valve.
I can't tell for sure by the photo, but is that a steel seat insert (K.O. Lee, etc.)?
I can't tell for sure by the photo, but is that a steel seat insert (K.O. Lee, etc.)?