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Gas shut off

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Anyone know who sells the best re-pop gas shut off, I need one for my '56 Pan, Thanks Whitey
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Re: Gas shut off

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Carl's Cycle Supply [Carl & Matt] make a very nice shut off rod assy. with a Viton tipped rod and cad plated seat. I think they are $125.00 ?? 605-225-5702 They are probably in Davenport right now.
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Re: Gas shut off

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Whitey!

I cut a PEEK tip myself.

But when I had a handfull of rods to "update", it became obvious that just re-cutting the original tip (Monel, I suspect), was sufficient to give the same results.

Fortunately, I started with my most tortured rod for the PEEK treatment, but most original tips showed some wear when cut.

I use the same suck-on-it test as a carb float valve.
That means tongue action too, to see how well it 'pops' when you pull it off.

Anyone with a lathe can dress your rod tip.
It's a 90 degree angle, which means 45 on the toolpost, at least on my Logan

Davenport quit early for the hurricane.
We needed the rain last May.

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Re: Gas shut off

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Thanks for the imfo. I'll call Carls on Monday, as far as repairing, I have a lathe, but I don't have a shut off valve to repair, Thanks Whitey
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Re: Gas shut off

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RE: 57 FL. The shutoff used to screw open and closed easily. I removed it to clean it up after sitting for 30 plus years. Now it still works but it's really tight. What changed? Do I need an alignment tool to correct it?
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Re: Gas shut off

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Do I need an alignment tool to correct it?
That depends... how crazy did you get removing it? Normally no, if the parts worked freely before, they should again. If you put a two foot cheater bar on it to get the valve loose anything is possible.
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Re: Gas shut off

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On mine, just the tightness of the nut on top of the tank, underneath the shut off knob made quite a difference. There are several parts that have to be inline, and not too tight. Mike
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Re: Gas shut off

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RUBONE wrote:
Do I need an alignment tool to correct it?
That depends... how crazy did you get removing it? Normally no, if the parts worked freely before, they should again. If you put a two foot cheater bar on it to get the valve loose anything is possible.
Robbie
The valve came off with ease. The only thing different is I have used a couple of copper crush washers instead of the brass originals. It does not, however completely seal when closed. It never did when it was a daily ride. Can't say the Linkert ever leaked, even if I failed to bother screwing it shut. Since following threads on this subject, I'm more concerned about it now. If I replace the the tip with a peek product, how do you remove the stock tip?
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Re: Gas shut off

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Scrap wrote: .... If I replace the the tip with a peek product, how do you remove the stock tip?..
Scrap!

Please see my previous post.
The original tips wear, and a simple cut on the lathe is usually all that is necessary for another life.

A PEEK replacement must be cut true to the rod exactly the same way.
So why go to the trouble to pull out the original (which may have several "lives" left),...
Badly damaged tip pulled from rod. Threaded collar need not be removed.
Badly damaged tip pulled from rod. Threaded collar need not be removed.
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...cut a press-fit blank from expensive PEEK, and install it, just to then give it that same lathe cut.

PEEK will have several 'lives' as well, each one a re-cut.
But my money is on the Monel when it comes to life-time.

....Cotten
PS: Back to pectock alignment, it is usually most necessary if the tank has been damaged, or it's a '65 Turnpike.
The factory tool is flawed. Beating it with a hammer gives it little grace.

I get very accurate results with a simple threaded guide and rod, that began as a tap for cleaning out fresh paintjobs:
PETALIGN.jpg
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It is bored for a 1/4" rod, which works as a pointer toward the top hole.
With the tool held in a vise, the tank can be gently tweaked to where the rod will center in the top hole.

Occasionally the top has been moved from square, so the tool to the left is a top cap brazed to a handle.
It also can move the metal to square without hammering or damage to paint.
Manual force is all that is needed, and 5 gal tanks only need three fingers.
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Re: Gas shut off

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Cotten wrote:
Scrap wrote: .... If I replace the the tip with a peek product, how do you remove the stock tip?..
Scrap!

Please see my previous post.
The original tips wear, and a simple cut on the lathe is usually all that is necessary for another life.

A PEEK replacement must be cut true to the rod exactly the same way.
So why go to the trouble to pull out the original (which may have several "lives" left),...
PETROD.jpg
...cut a press-fit blank from expensive PEEK, and install it, just to then give it that same lathe cut.

PEEK will have several 'lives' as well, each one a re-cut.
But my money is on the Monel when it comes to life-time.

....Cotten
PS: Back to pectock alignment, it is usually most necessary if the tank has been damaged, or it's a '65 Turnpike.
The factory tool is flawed. Beating it with a hammer gives it little grace.

I get very accurate results with a simple threaded guide and rod, that began as a tap for cleaning out fresh paintjobs:
PETALIGN.jpg
It is bored for a 1/4" rod, which works as a pointer toward the top hole.
With the tool held in a vise, the tank can be gently tweaked to where the rod will center in the top hole.

Occasionally the top has been moved from square, so the tool to the left is a top cap brazed to a handle.
It also can move the metal to square without hammering or damage to paint.
Manual force is all that is needed, and 5 gal tanks only need three fingers.
OK, I do have a lathe, I'll dress the tip. Thanks for the advice.
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