Front brake drums
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Front brake drums
Honestly I've been searching.
What's the service limit for the front drums? Going junkin would like to find an extra.
Regards!
What's the service limit for the front drums? Going junkin would like to find an extra.
Regards!
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Re: Front brake drums
Huck!---I pushed mine to .110/ At one point & made the year-(8 months!).But I wouldn't recommend it!--I always felt uneasy & Used the mixer & rear brake ALOT!.---I do not know the running limit -but I was under a 1/8-inch!-& It always bugged me in the back of my mind!---I actually used it for 2-more months the following year until I found a OEM one in NICE COND.----Respectfully----RICHIE
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Re: Front brake drums
Huck!
A "service limit" would just be the largest spec that an OEM lining would match.
So its really about the linings, not the drum.
If you can have oversized linings properly arc'd, I would trust the drum even over OEM limits.
....Cotten
A "service limit" would just be the largest spec that an OEM lining would match.
So its really about the linings, not the drum.
If you can have oversized linings properly arc'd, I would trust the drum even over OEM limits.
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Re: Front brake drums
Thanks COTTEN!--Sounds good!--Im glad I saved my old drum!---I had no problem fitting shoes to it.--Ok another part I don't have to get for my bobber-build.---Richie
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Re: Front brake drums
Cast iron drums over the service limit max are subject to cracking and even fracturing. I suggest you have the person suggesting you go beyond limits supply you with a valid insurance policy before following his poorly thought out response. Cast iron is very forgiving, but only to a certain point. Stamped drums will only stretch more once beyond safe limits. Iron drums will not.
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Re: Front brake drums
Palmer's book says that the cast iron drums are safe at 8,10 inch. Standard diameter is 8,00.
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Re: Front brake drums
Folks,
It takes heat to make a drum fail.
Steel drums will warp long before a cast drum will crack.
Chrome should be avoided with either!
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It takes heat to make a drum fail.
Steel drums will warp long before a cast drum will crack.
Chrome should be avoided with either!
....Cotten
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Re: Front brake drums
Thanks Guy's, I like to hear the different opinions, they allow a good base to form my own. I didn’t strike on anything there, thought they were too crusty for the asking price.
Good time, great weather, not as many sellers as last year. Forgot my camera. wth?
Ps: the Pan ran great.
Good time, great weather, not as many sellers as last year. Forgot my camera. wth?
Ps: the Pan ran great.
Re: Front brake drums
I just checked the book and the extra info is:
"if you are going to go past 8.040", you must use special 0.030" oversize brake shoes or linings. The drum must be turned at least 8.060" for the oversize linings to work properly."
And 8.100" max for the drum.
"if you are going to go past 8.040", you must use special 0.030" oversize brake shoes or linings. The drum must be turned at least 8.060" for the oversize linings to work properly."
And 8.100" max for the drum.
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Re: Front brake drums
Which brings us back, Folks...Hop Up wrote:I just checked the book and the extra info is:
"if you are going to go past 8.040", you must use special 0.030" oversize brake shoes or linings. The drum must be turned at least 8.060" for the oversize linings to work properly."
And 8.100" max for the drum.
...to my previous post.
Its about the linings and having them accurately arc'd.
You wouldn't be forced to take out the full 8.060" with proper equipment.
But Dealerships rarely had the equipment.
So the Factory "limit" was set by their off-the-shelf replacement linings.
There is plenty of "meat" left beyond that, unless you really have tight panties.
The secret to avoiding drum damage is to not get them hot.
If you live in the mountains, with a heavy machine like a sidehack,...you might.
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Re: Front brake drums
Terribly stubborn regarding others working on my pile. Do you make a pattern? Is the drum itself the pattern? Surly you’ve made a tool to accomplish the mission? My front brakes shouldn’t be called such a word.
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Re: Front brake drums
Huck!
It takes either equipment designed to arc oversized linings, or fixtureing upon a lathe to do it safely.
I would farm it out, myself.
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It takes either equipment designed to arc oversized linings, or fixtureing upon a lathe to do it safely.
I would farm it out, myself.
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Re: Front brake drums
I took my shoes to a local brake shop and had them install new linings. They wouldn't arc them (EPA stuff I think) so I took some 100 grit sticky back sandpaper and stuck a couple side by side inside the drum and arc'ed them myself by working the shoe back and forth.
Go easy as it doesn't take much and my brakes work very well considering what they are......
Here is a pic from 1937 of the shop here in Houston where I had them done.........
Go easy as it doesn't take much and my brakes work very well considering what they are......
Here is a pic from 1937 of the shop here in Houston where I had them done.........
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Re: Front brake drums
Hi Mark! Just curious, did you have the shoes mounted on the backing plate while doing the sanding? I'm thinking the arc would be quite a bit different off the plate. If your process could be done with all the parts installed on the fork it would be ideal!...Mike
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Re: Front brake drums
mike, i did what mark did on my front drum. cut a pice of adhesive backed sand paper the length and width of the drum and slide it over the assembled shoes. i bought the paper in a roll somewhere, can't remember.